These Last Days News - July 7, 2020
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"Pastors, those who have in their care Our sheep, you must stop now these changes that you seek in novelty, for they are destroying the young souls and scattering Our sheep.
"I repeat, My children, the great Council in Rome of Vatican II, the promises were great, but satan sat among you and he played you like the chess board.
"You were given a foundation of Faith based on Tradition and knowledge of the prophets. You cannot start this new religion, for it will lead you to one religion that is not of My Son, that will not have His true foundation, and you will take My Son's Body and defame it, no longer giving the knowledge of His divinity. What manner of foul escapades are you planning, O you of little faith? Whatever shall become of you? The Red Hats have fallen and the Purple Hats are being misled. Woe, woe, woe to the inhabitants of the earth!
"My child, do not slacken in your work because of the opinion of man. Know, My child, that it is not you who are speaking but the voice from Heaven."
- The Bayside Prophecies
Our Lady of the Roses, August 5, 1976
DOORS WERE OPENED
"O My children, recognize, I repeat, the signs of your times. You are fast selling yourselves into slavery. Your government and the governments of the world are now almost in full control of the agents of hell. The forces of 666 are firmly entrenched in your government, in the clergy—your pastors, your shepherds, your bishops; even satan has entered into the highest realms of the hierarchy in Rome.
"My children, the Council of Vatican II was started with good intent, but the doors were opened to all manner of heretics, causing a slow pollution of the Faith. My children, you must now awaken the pastors from their slumber! They have given themselves over now to a new religion of man."
- The Bayside Prophecies
Our Lady of the Roses, July 25, 1977
The above Messages from Our Lady were given to Veronica Lueken at Bayside, New York.
ChurchMilitant.com reported on July 6, 2020:
by Abp. Carlo Maria Viganò
Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò is countering suggestions that, through his recent criticism of Vatican II, he is flirting with schism.
In an open letter to Italian journalist Sandro Magister, the Vatican whistleblower reaffirms the need to highlight unresolved problems stemming from the Second Vatican Council and warns that "conspirators" have capitalized on the 1962–65 gathering to "demolish the Church from within."
3 July 2020
Saint Irenaeus, Bishop and Martyr
Dear Mr. Magister,
Permit me to reply to your article "Archbishop Viganò on the Brink of Schism," published at Settimo Cielo on June 29.
I am aware that having dared to express an opinion strongly critical of the Council is sufficient to awaken the inquisitorial spirit that, in other cases, is the object of execration by right-thinking people. Nonetheless, in a respectful dispute between ecclesiastics and competent laity, it does not seem to me to be inappropriate to raise problems that remain unresolved to date, the foremost of which is the crisis that has afflicted the Church since Vatican II and has now reached the point of devastation.
There are those who speak of the misrepresentation of the Council; others who speak of the need to return to reading it in continuity with the Tradition; others of the opportunity to correct any errors contained in it, or to interpret the equivocal points in a Catholic sense. On the opposing side, there is no lack of those who consider Vatican II as a blueprint from which to proceed in the revolution — the changing and transformation of the Church into an entirely new and modern entity, in step with the times.
This is part of the normal dynamics of a dialogue that is all too often invoked but rarely practiced: Those who thus far have expressed dissent about what I have said have never entered into the merit of the argument, limiting themselves to saddling me with epithets that have already been merited by my far more illustrious and venerable brothers in the episcopate. It is curious that, both in the doctrinal as well as the political arena, the progressives claim for themselves a primacy, a state of election, that apodictically places the adversary in a position of ontological inferiority, unworthy of attention or response and simplistically liquidatable as Lefebvrian on the ecclesial front or fascist on the sociopolitical front. But their lack of arguments does not legitimize them to dictate the rules, nor to decide who has the right to speak, especially when reason, even prior to faith, has demonstrated where the deception is, who the author is and what the purpose is.
At first it appeared to me that the content of your article was to be considered more an understandable tribute to the Prince, who can be found in the frescoed salons of the Third Loggia or in the stylish offices of the Editor; and yet in reading what you attribute to me I discovered an inaccuracy — let's call it that — that I hope is the result of a misunderstanding. I, therefore, ask you to grant me space to reply at Settimo Cielo.
You state that I have supposedly blamed Benedict XVI "for having 'deceived' the whole Church in that he would have it be believed that the Second Vatican Council was immune to heresies and moreover should be interpreted in perfect continuity with true, perennial doctrine." I do not think that I have ever written such a thing about the Holy Father. On the contrary, I said, and I reaffirm, that we were all — or almost all — deceived by those who used the Council as a "container" equipped with its own implicit authority and the authoritativeness of the Fathers who took part in it, while distorting its purpose. And those who fell into this deception did so because, loving the Church and the papacy, they could not imagine that in the heart of Vatican II a minority of very organized conspirators could use a Council to demolish the Church from within; and that in doing so they could count on the silence and inaction of authority, if not on its complicity. These are historical facts, of which I permit myself to give a personal interpretation, but one which I think others may share.
I permit myself also to remind you, as if there was any need, that the positions of moderate, critical rereading of the Council in a traditional sense by Benedict XVI are part of a laudable recent past, while in the formidable '70s the position of then-theologian Joseph Ratzinger was quite different. Authoritative studies stand alongside the same admissions of the Professor of Tubingen confirming the partial repentances of the Emeritus. Nor do I see a "reckless indictment launched by Viganò against Benedict XVI for his 'failed attempts to correct conciliar excesses by invoking the hermeneutic of continuity,'" since this is an opinion widely shared not only in conservative circles but also and above all among progressives.
And it should be said that what the innovators succeeded in obtaining by means of deception, cunning and blackmail was the result of a vision that we have found later applied in the maximum degree in the Bergoglian "magisterium" of Amoris Laetitia. The malicious intention is admitted by Ratzinger himself: "The impression grew steadily that nothing was now stable in the Church, that everything was open to revision. More and more, the Council appeared to be like a great Church parliament that could change everything and reshape everything according to its own desires" (cf. J. Ratzinger, Milestones, translation from the German by Erasmo Leiva-Merikakis, Ignatius Press, San Francisco, 1997, p. 132). But even more so by the words of the Dominican Edward Schillebeeckx: "We express it diplomatically [now], but after the Council we will draw the implicit conclusions" (De Bazuin, n.16, 1965).
We have confirmed that the intentional ambiguity in the texts had the purpose of keeping opposing and irreconcilable visions together, in the name of an evaluation of utility and to the detriment of revealed truth — a truth that, when it is integrally proclaimed, cannot fail to be divisive, just as Our Lord is divisive: "Do you think that I have come to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but rather division" (Luke 12:51).
I do not find anything reprehensible in suggesting that we should forget Vatican II: Its proponents knew how to confidently exercise this damnatio memoriae not just with a Council but with everything, even to the point of affirming that their council was the first of the new Church, and that beginning with their council the old religion and the old Mass was finished. You will say to me that these are the positions of extremists, and that virtue stands in the middle, that is, among those who consider that Vatican II is only the latest of an uninterrupted series of events in which the Holy Spirit speaks through the mouth of the one and only infallible Magisterium. If so, it should be explained why the conciliar Church was given a new liturgy and a new calendar, and consequently a new doctrine — nova lex orandi, nova lex credendi — distancing itself from its own past with disdain.
The mere idea of setting the Council aside causes scandal even in those, like you, who recognize the crisis of recent years, but who persist in not wanting to recognize the causal link between Vatican II and its logical and inevitable effects. You write: "Attention — not the Council interpreted badly, but the Council as such and en bloc." I ask you then: What would be the correct interpretation of the Council? The one you give or the one given — while they wrote the decrees and declarations — by its very industrious architects? Or perhaps that of the German episcopate? Or that of the theologians who teach in the pontifical universities and that we see published in the most popular Catholic periodicals in the world? Or that of Joseph Ratzinger? Or that of Bp. Schneider? Or that of Bergoglio?
This would be enough to understand how much damage has been caused by the deliberate adoption of a language that was so murky that it legitimized opposing and contrary interpretations, on the basis of which the famous conciliar springtime then occurred. This is why I do not hesitate to say that that assembly should be forgotten "as such and en bloc," and I claim the right to say it without thereby making myself guilty of the delict of schism for having attacked the unity of the Church. The unity of the Church is inseparably in charity and in truth, and where error reigns or even only worms its way in, there cannot be charity.
The fairytale of the hermeneutic — even though an authoritative one because of its author — nevertheless remains an attempt to want to give the dignity of a Council to a true and proper ambush against the Church, so as not to discredit along with it the popes who wanted, imposed and reproposed that Council — so much so, that those same popes, one after the other, rise to the honors of the altar for having been "popes of the Council."
Allow me to quote from the article that Dr. Maria Guarini published on June 29 at Chiesa e postconcilio in reaction to your piece at Settimo Cielo, titled: "Archbishop Viganò is not on the brink of schism: Many sins are coming to a head." She writes: "And it is precisely from here that is born and for this reason risks continuing — without results (thus far, except for the debate triggered by Abp. Viganò) — the dialogue between deaf people, because the interlocutors use different reality grids: Vatican II, changing the language, has also changed the parameters of approach to reality. And so it happens that we talk about the same thing which, however, is given entirely different meanings.
Among other things, the principal characteristic of the present hierarchy is the use of incontestable affirmations, without ever bothering to demonstrate them or with flawed and sophistic demonstrations. But they do not even have need of demonstrations, because the new approach and the new language have subverted everything from the beginning. And the unproven nature of the anomalous 'pastorality' without any defined theological principles is precisely what takes away the raw material of the dispute. It is the advance of a shapeless, ever-changing, dissolving fluid in place of the clear, unequivocal, definitive truthful construct — the incandescent, perennial firmness of dogma against the sewage and shifting sands of the transient neo-magisterium."
I continue to hope that the tone of your article was not dictated by the simple fact that I have dared to reopen the debate about that Council that many — too many — in the ecclesial structure, consider as a unicum in the history of the Church, almost an untouchable idol.
You may be certain that, unlike many bishops — such as those of the German synodal path, who have already gone far beyond the brink of schism, promoting and brazenly attempting to impose aberrant ideologies and practices on the universal Church — I have no desire to separate myself from Mother Church, for the exaltation of which I daily renew the offering of my life.
Deus refugium nostrum et virtus,
populum ad Te clamantem propitius respice;
Et intercedente Gloriosa et Immaculata Virgine Dei Genitrice Maria,
cum Beato Ioseph, ejus Sponso,
ac Beatis Apostolis Tuis, Petro et Paulo, et omnibus Sanctis,
quas pro conversione peccatorum,
pro libertate et exaltatione Sanctae Matris Ecclesiae,
preces effundimus, misericors et benignus exaudi.
Receive, dear Sandro, my blessing and greeting, with best wishes for every good thing, in Christ Jesus.
Carlo Maria Viganò
"O pastors in My Son's House, how many times must I warn you of the dangers of your innovations, the dangers of your experimenting in My Son's House? You will not convert, you will not return Our straying sheep with your improvisions. You must return discipline to My Son's House. This discipline must start with the rulers in My Son's House."
- The Bayside Prophecies
Our Lady of the Roses, November 22, 1976
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